In this ZOOM Saloon we had the pleasure to talk to cultural manager Elisabeth Noever Ginthör. Elisabeth has been director of the Creativity & Business department at the Vienna Business Agency since 2014 and also responsible for many of the creative grants with which the agency supports the creative industries in Vienna. We learned a lot about how to best apply for these grants and what still needs to be done to make the Viennese art scene more inclusive and intersectional. We thank Elisabeth for taking such interest in our members' work and how she encouraged us to keep working even during the worst of circumstances.